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    Yeah you're right, thanks. I am going to write out some more stories and see if I can get them down to 8 pages, even if I think I can't.

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    There you go, you've actually already given up.
    Remember John Cleese's video, who give Yoda like advise: let go of your fears if you want to be creative.


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    What do you mean I've given up? When did I say that? I meant I will try to write out stories, even if they are too long, and then shorten them after. Is that not good?


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    Senior Member   Any thoughts on how to write a short film story that can be wrapped up in 8 minutes? Any thoughts on how to write a short film story that can be wrapped up in 8 minutes? Any thoughts on how to write a short film story that can be wrapped up in 8 minutes? Walter B's Avatar
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    This little thing you say here:

    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    ...............even if I think I can't.
    [ Vader mode]
    Your thoughts betray you.
    [ /Vader mode]

    Just saying this is preparing yourself for failure on a subconscious level.

    Besides that: try to write a small story instead and expand it to 8 pages.
    Otherwise you keep on trying to squeeze a story into a tight frame.

    Your lady serial killer idea was able to trigger me to think of 1 location and 1 reason why it stays on that location: from there I expanded the idea.
    I did not make it a 30 page story first and then slimmed in down.
    Keep it simple and expand instead of starting complex and trying to simplify.

    My method: 1 location: can be hotel room.
    Why stay there? Man is tied up.
    Why is he tied up? Wild night.
    -> Story starts on that night.
    What is a nice beat?
    Waking up tied up alone.
    What can make him worry? -> TV news.
    What happens when she comes back? -> Twist idea.

    I did not make an elaborate story first. I started small, created boundaries: 1 room, tied up and let all action come from your idea, except for the twist.

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    Okay thanks. Mainly I haven't thought of a satisfactory ending to my ideas so far. I feel like I have maybe enough time to develop a protagonist, but not enough for the antagonist, so the result is a wooden antagonist. I feel that perhaps this is what's keeping me from reaching a satisfactory ending to my idea.


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    I'm just not understanding the insistence of crime related stories? Serial killers? Pimps and hookers? For Odin's sake just broaden your horizons dude. A boys first love. A daughter's last moments with her dying mother (easily done in 8 ages, 1 location and 3 characters and it will move the crap out of the audience if done right), the sky's the limit if you just stop thinking you want to be the next Mickey Spillane.


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    Exactly: painting himself in a corner again and again.


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    Well I have just always been attracted to crime stories, and for this reason, I feel I could write a better story in the genre that I have written in before and am more passionate about. The teacher also said to stick with the types of stories you like, cause you'll will probably do a better job in the genres you prefer. So I thought I would do that. I thought about the boy's first love one as well, but haven't figured out a way to end it.


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    Pony, I will speak frankly here and I hope you dont think anyone here is trying to be harsh or cruel. We are trying to help. The first rule of writing is to write what you know so I am not sure why your teacher said what he said. it doesnt work for you. You may be attracted to crime stories but you dont know anything about the law, crime or the criminal justice process. You ask the most rudimentary questions on police and court procedure. You lack the knowledge and experience to write about it. There is also the danger of copying others. Since you have never been in the real life system, the only thing you have to draw on for a story is what you've seen or read. Because of that you run the risk of unintentionally copying others work and style. This is always bad. You will be considered either lacking creativity or worse, a plagiarist.
    Another rule of film making and writing is not to become married to an idea. If you cant make it work, you throw it out no matter how much you love it. In this case you need to throw out the crime genre for now and take up something you know. You may "feel" you can write a better story in the crime genre because you are passionate about it but you've displayed over the past few years you can not. Give the concept a chance. For at least this assignment you are working on now, set aside the crime genre and investigate a new one. See if it works out. Then later go back to the crime stuff if you need to.


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    Okay thank you. I know everyone is offering help, and I appreciate it. Perhaps I am being too much of a perfectionist, and just am not satisfied with a lot of what I try to come up with...

    But I was told before that I spend too much time on getting the legal procedures right, when I should just break the rules a little for the sake of drama. And when I have asked police officers before in my research, they would just tell me almost every movie makes things up in order to be more exciting and entertaining. So do I really need to know all the procedures, when drama comes first, if that's the case? Should I write with character drama in mind, or getting all the facts right, even if it makes the story more complicated, or less exciting?


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    You need a story without procedures.
    Period.

    You have 5 to 8 minutes.
    It should be about characters. Not about laws, rules or regulations.


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    I give up. I spend 10 minutes explaining why a crime genre short will fail and that he needs to change his plans and he asks about how to make a crime genre short work. I'm tapping out. The rest of you can handle this from now on.


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    Sorry, it's just I just finished a draft of one in 8 pages thinking it might work since I got it in 8 pages. And it's a thriller where I left the police and law out of it. But if it won't work for 8 pages, then I can try to think of new ideas.


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