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Aspiringmogul
05-08-2013, 07:07 PM
I've been asking questions about doing a webseries, and I understand most Youtube channels don't make a lot of money, but they don't lose money either, so the only thing the producers would lose is their time.

What're the experiences of our members, may I ask?

Havey
05-08-2013, 07:27 PM
Youtube is the future. Honestly. You can make great amounts of money on Youtube if you can learn to promote yourself along with your videos. But you have to be consistent and you have to have creative and fun content.

I honestly love Youtube. I get on the site on a daily basis and I use it all the time.

Trying to build my channel with content now.

Director
05-08-2013, 08:30 PM
Of the top 10 money earners on YouTube, 9 of them are comics and humours nature. Of couse, being funny all the time is difficult. But in terms of making money and attracting subscribers, that's the best way.

Aspiringmogul
05-08-2013, 11:02 PM
Of the top 10 money earners on YouTube, 9 of them are comics and humours nature. Of couse, being funny all the time is difficult. But in terms of making money and attracting subscribers, that's the best way.

Thanks for the help, Director. When you say, "best way", what alternatives are you comparing it to?

Anonymous Filmmaker
05-09-2013, 03:32 AM
I've been asking questions about doing a webseries, and I understand most Youtube channels don't make a lot of money, but they don't lose money either, so the only thing the producers would lose is their time.

What're the experiences of our members, may I ask?

Well, I think Youtube may soon be able to make much more money. I posted a news thread (not sure if it got approved) about how soon you may have to pay for subscriptions to be allowed to watch certain channels. This could be annoying for viewers, but producers could make much more money.

Vance Baryn
05-09-2013, 03:58 AM
Here is my experience with Youtube:

1. Upload short films that I work really hard on making for an entire month: less than 100 views each

2. Do a mix of other people's guitar covers of Psy's Gentleman because I was a bored one afternoon and upload to Youtube with no video, just a still image: 1200 views

brianknapp
05-09-2013, 04:16 AM
Actually there will be plenty of money to make in the future youtube will shortly begin a beta version of a paid subscribtion for selected youtube channels. If you like 'em you gotta pay 'em.

Aspiringmogul
05-09-2013, 05:52 AM
I'm not convinced subscriptions are the way to go. Free videos aren't getting enough views to make anyone rich, which means that, if they have to pay for them, they'll view the videos less often, which would lower the hit rate.

My problem with internet entertainment is that no one has been able to make it truly profitable.

Havey
05-09-2013, 06:09 AM
I'm pretty sure there are quite a bit of people on Youtube who make enough money each month to where they don't even have to think about working.

I'm pretty sure if you Youtube page is pretty popular you can easily shell out $5,000 a month.

In my book, thats great money to someone who just uploads videos to a website.

Aspiringmogul
05-09-2013, 06:21 AM
$5,000 a month is good, but don't they have to pay the actors et al? I read about Felicia Day, an actress who does one of the more popular shows, but she still needs a second job.

Havey
05-09-2013, 07:11 AM
Well most popular channels are popular because of 1-3 people. So they are the ones making money.

I have personally talked to DevinSuperTramp. I talk to him probably once a month, super cool guy, extremely popular.

He travels the planet doing amazing videos, fun videos. I know for a fact he was making like thousands per month, PLUS he was getting endorsements from companies.

I'm telling you, that you can easily make a living off Youtube if you play your cards right.

Aspiringmogul
05-09-2013, 07:25 AM
So how do I play my cards right? :)

Vance Baryn
05-09-2013, 07:36 AM
So how do I play my cards right? :)

If it's anything like poker, fold a lot. ;-)

Havey
05-09-2013, 08:10 AM
Humor. Honestly.

Or something so unique people can't look away. I believe Nick said that the most popular Youtube channels are the ones that are home to lots of funny comedy. Which is true.

The other is being really unique with music, doing your own covers, ect.

But since this is film, honestly you need to be funny or have something extremely creative like DevinSuperTramp.

Then be consistent and promote yourself like crazy.

brianknapp
05-10-2013, 04:04 AM
Yes there a plenty of youtubers that make 100,000 dollar salaries just from youtube like Phillip defranco and Freddie W

The Camera Man
05-10-2013, 05:38 AM
I don't get paid for my films on YouTube, but I will say that it's been a challenge to get even a tiny grain of attention without selling out and doing what the 'YouTube Celebrities' do for attention, misleading video titles, video game playthroughs, sexual content and trend following.

That's my only problem with YouTube, tasteless people get the most attention just by using these same sleazy techniques

RedBrick1
06-16-2013, 04:16 AM
Here is my experience with Youtube:

1. Upload short films that I work really hard on making for an entire month: less than 100 views each

2. Do a mix of other people's guitar covers of Psy's Gentleman because I was a bored one afternoon and upload to Youtube with no video, just a still image: 1200 views

I feel your pain, all too well actually.

GradeBFilms
06-16-2013, 07:41 AM
YouTube for me is all about an uphill struggle for views and subs. Right now I have 13 subs, pretty much all of which are friends I had to ask to subscribe! My videos have struggled to get past 100 views and still do, which is incredibly frustrating, but I still get valuable feedback from this forum, so it's worth it!
For the pilot of my new series 'Homeless hero' I paid for some advertising, but frankly I look at the stats every day and regret it, because whilst it injected some life into that one video, I got no subs and I should've known better than to use a shady service like I did. Google Adwords wasn't much help either.
I don't want to fill my channel with music or vlogs, but I'm sure I'll pepper them in the future just to gain a bit of traction.

RedBrick1
06-17-2013, 11:03 AM
I have been having a slight issue. I am having a very hard time continuing to get views on my videos. I get a fairly large spike in the first week and then it drops down to 5-10 a day on some of them. I didn't used to have this problem, it seems to have popped up over the past year. Anyone else experiencing this?

GradeBFilms
06-17-2013, 12:32 PM
I have been having a slight issue. I am having a very hard time continuing to get views on my videos. I get a fairly large spike in the first week and then it drops down to 5-10 a day on some of them. I didn't used to have this problem, it seems to have popped up over the past year. Anyone else experiencing this?

It's just the way it is, really. I maybe get 1 a day if I'm lucky after the initial drop-off. Pretty cool channel though, subbed!

Chan Walrus
07-13-2013, 10:02 PM
One has to take into account though that the level of humor of these comics is very basic, so it's not that hard coming up with stuff like that. Jump cut for the win! XD

spacecadetmotionpictures
07-13-2013, 11:03 PM
I made my first 3 cents off of Youtube since uploading HUNDRED$ a week ago.

I was thinking of spending it all in one place... Does anyone know of any stores that still sell one cent gummy bears? :-P

In all seriousness though, I do feel a big change coming in the way we think of and treat online video. I'm a bit skeptical about a subscription based service though. I think that some new form is just around the corner.

For now, I think it's just going to take creativity on our parts.

As artists I know that we groan at the idea of product placement in our works, but I believe it would be the way to really make money that isn't directly from Youtube. It would probably be really hard to land a big sponsor like Coke, Dell or Sony when you're a little fish, but I feel that there is a lot of opportunity when it comes to smaller and local brands who are just as eager as us to get their name out there. I have no real experience with product placement, but I have started compiling a list of small brands and local businesses that I can approach once I have something with the potential for a lot of views. For these guys, who generally can't afford TV advertising or product placement in a big film, the small amounts I would be asking for would be within their budgets and could land up giving them huge returns in recognition and coverage.

Klay M Abele
08-08-2013, 06:58 AM
Even with product placement you need to sell them that you have x many viewers per video or x many subscribers. I'm sure you could get a small amount from the sponsor to get started. They need to see that the money they give you will have some payoff. Use your analytics as proof that your channel is growing, show them your demographics etc.

Now I've never approached a business to do a sponsorship, so I could be off, but those are standard principals in ROI (return on investment) Side note: use that term when approaching them, they will like that, haha.

Klay M Abele
08-08-2013, 07:05 AM
Oh! Also, look at your MONTHLY views when showing them growth. You'll see a better trend when looking at monthly. Check out the example below.

1006

Now the spike you see there was from one of the last vids I put out, and I havn't made much since, BUT you see looking at monthly how there is a trend that is rising. You can't count august yet but even looking from May-July you see it continually rising. Hope this helps! and go make 'dat money!

D4Darious
08-30-2013, 03:34 AM
This whole back and forth about YouTube has been very informative. I'm a new Youtuber as well. I have over 500 views 30 subs and 5 ad clicks but my adsense account still says I've made 0 dollars. Not sure If that's right or if I should be concerned about that yet.

Anonymous Filmmaker
08-30-2013, 04:04 AM
This whole back and forth about YouTube has been very informative. I'm a new Youtuber as well. I have over 500 views 30 subs and 5 ad clicks but my adsense account still says I've made 0 dollars. Not sure If that's right or if I should be concerned about that yet.
5 clicks? It's unlikely you'll get payed yet.

Mick Scarborough
08-30-2013, 05:23 AM
Listen. No filmmaker is making money off of Youtube. Channels that make money are things like RayWilliamJohnson anf defranco. These guys make videos under 5 minutes and appeal to the brainless. Creative content doesnt make money on Youtube. Oh and if you're a hot chick that doesnt hurt either. Keep in mind the youtube's main viewer is teens. This is why justin beiber haunts our souls now. I have had youtube channels with over 5000 subs and over 1 million views and never made a penny.

Anonymous Filmmaker
08-30-2013, 05:30 AM
Listen. No filmmaker is making money off of Youtube. Channels that make money are things like RayWilliamJohnson anf defranco. These guys make videos under 5 minutes and appeal to the brainless. Creative content doesnt make money on Youtube. Oh and if you're a hot chick that doesnt hurt either. Keep in mind the youtube's main viewer is teens. This is why justin beiber haunts our souls now. I have had youtube channels with over 5000 subs and over 1 million views and never made a penny.

This is mostly true, but there are a few creative channels that make money. (freddiew, corridor digital, etc...)