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    I'm writing a screenplay, and trying to keep the budget as low as possible. Basically the main character ( a cop), kills another cop by accident in a shootout, and wants to frame the villain for it. But in order to do that, he has to erase all of the evidence that would lead to him being the shooter at the crime scene. So he would have to get rid of his bullets from the shootout somehow, or use a different gun that is not registered to him. But there is still the matter of his DNA and possible prints being there.

    So a lot of times in fiction, whenever a crook, or corrupt cop, wants to destroy evidence, they poor gasoline all over the crime scene and burn it. However, since I am writing with the lowest budget possible, is it possible for him to use another method other than fire to destroy all the forensic evidence that would lead back to him?

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    bleach.
    Done.
    Next.


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    First off if a cop is killed by friendly fire, the charge goes on the bad guy, not the cop who shot the other cop so there is no reason to cover up. Your premise is bad right from the start. But for the sake of answering your question. The officer would have to retrieve his bullets from the body, and replace them with other bullets that have already had a similar impact (striking tissue). Something impossible to do in an accidental shooting. Pony, start over. Your screenplay doesnt work.


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    Yes but the main character cop is not going to be a reliable witness cause the only reason he found who those villains were, was because he illegally hacked into someone's computer to find out their identities. So I was told by police in my research, that the MC would not be able to make a reliable statement that would get the case into court, cause since he obtained their ID's through hacking, it becomes 'fruit of the poisonous tree'. At least this is what I was told in my research.

    So the reason why the MC wants to cover up that he was there, is to avoid fruit of the poisonous tree. Plus the villains wore gloves and their DNA is not on previous file. So they themselves do not leave anything that would help the case, other than the MC's legally tainted testimony.

    So the MC cannot say that the villains were there, without his testimony being tainted. So the best thing to do is to erase him being there then, no?


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    I don't know why you choose to write a very complex story that you cannot figure out how to write. You should write something you can write.

    If you can't jump 9 feet in distance, jump 5. If you keep trying to jump 9 when you can only jump 5 you will only continue to fail. You have to work your way up to 9. That's an analogy.

    BTW, you always see in cop shows on TV the bad guys cleaning up their DNA and other evidence with bleach. They do this so that people BELIEVE this will work. People who are going to commit crimes. Bleach is really not the end all for this problem. Actually, hydrogen peroxide is. If you use that it will seem like you know something everyone else doesn't know, because now you do.


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    Well I didn't think of it is that complex. I mean the MC has a simple goal. The MC chooses to frame the villain for his accidental wrong doing and make everyone come after the villain for it.

    That's a pretty simple goal isn't? I have the who, what, where, when and why, just not the 'how' yet.


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    A goal is always simple: 'win this', 'defeat that', 'rule the world', 'free the galaxy'.
    Your how is complex as it can be. Since it already takes you years to write it in to a form that seems plausible, it might be too artificial to work.


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    Yeah I just need to come up with a better, more simpler how.

    I also do not understand how the MC reporting that he was there was better, since that makes things a lot more complicated than if he were to keep his mouth shut about it, and erase him being there, thereby erasing the complications.

    I want to take the suggestion and have him report it, if that makes more sense, but I feel that it was not pointed out, how that is less complicated, compared to not saying anything at all.

    I want to take the suggestion and write it that way, if it's better, I just don't know how to proceed, since the new decision of the MC, will lead to more complications than before, wouldn't it?

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    We don't know, we didn't read the scrip. All we ever get are incomplete pieces of info and your opinions about it.
    There is no simple how, because your what s#cks.
    Your what might be a problem, because your why is farfetched.

    The whole crime scene scene is pointless if it just goes away.
    It only matters if he digs himself in a deeper hole.


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    Okay thanks. But it doesn't just go away. Basically by having a dead cop at the scene, the MC now has the opportunity to frame the villains for it, which will drive the story to an ending. If he is dug into a deeper hole, it just prolongs the ending, and the story becomes longer, cause he has to dig himself out of the hole.

    I originally wrote it this way, but then realized that there was no way to dig himself out of the hole, that I could think of. Fruit of the poisonous tree, is what it is, and once a case becomes tainted with it, there is no getting out of it for the MC, and fruit of the poisonous tree is a permanent hole, incapable of being dug out of, in the legal world.

    I asked on here before, what do about the situation, and I was told to leave all the legal stuff out and write it differently. So I wrote it now without the MC digging himself into a legal hole, cause the legal holes are complicating the story. Plus why does the story need a legal hole? I was told before to make it about characters and forget about the law, so if he digs himself into a hole, the law is just brought back in, and then I got deal with all those legal complications, which I couldn't figure out away around cause the law is written so tightly.

    I just figure why not have it so the MC chooses not to dig himself into the hole, frame the villains for the dead cop's death, and bring the story to a close. Unless that's still worse, but why would the MC choose to dig himself into a hole, since he is a cop, and knows what fruit of the poisonous tree is, and what it will do to the case?

    But you say my what sucks, so that might be the problem. What is wrong with the what exactly? Is it cause you said the whole crime scene is pointless if it goes away?

    The point of the crime scene was so the MC can frame the villains for the dead cop's death though, which is what drives the last third of the story.

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    Well it does go away if the MC has no other consequences than a 'quick fix' to frame the bad guy.
    It has no further complications.
    Getting is possible trouble doesn't have to complicate or delay the ending: it can however add excitement to it.


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    Well I could write it so that the MC is caught in his lies if that is what you mean, but if he is, than the villains go free, legally speaking, so I have to pick one or the other, and I don't see how I can have both, cause of how the fruit of the poisonous tree law works. So wouldn't it be better if the MC avoided all that legal stuff, in order to have ending, capable of happening?

    I am all over the MC digging himself into more of a hole, it's just I don't see how it could happen, since fruit of the poisonous tree, is a PERMANENT hole, legally speaking.


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    That is why your story might be original, but also weird as it makes you wonder who the real bad guy is.
    (Al Capone wasn't framed.)


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