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    Default How's my gimbal practice?

    Here is a test I did with the DJI Ronin. When I run with it though, it's not exactly the smoothest. You can still see a bit of bounce in my step it seems. I intentionally jump a few times to see how smooth it would look but when I'm not jumping and just plane running, it feels like it could be smoother.

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    It looks like you need a lot of practice with it yet. I use a cheap Glidecam knock-off and it does a better job than what you are showing here.

    Your Ronin has an excellent reputation, so I would suspect you just need more practice with it.


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    Okay thanks. Do you have any idea what I could be doing wrong? I am trying to hold it as steady as possible when running, and not sure what the problem is.


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    did you balance it?


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    Yep. Or at least I followed the balancing instructions as they were, and the camera in it's proper position, as to what the instructions said.

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    There is also a follow setting in the app (if you are using the cell phone app.) you need to set.


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    Yeah I followed online tutorial instructions and set the apt settings to the specifications they said to.


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    I've never used a gimbal so I could not tell you what you need to work on with it. My Glidecam knock-off has always worked very well for me.


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    Okay thanks. I wasn't planning on getting the Ronin I don't think after trying it out. Mainly I don't like how it's very difficult to transport in one piece. I think it was meant to be taken apart in sections, put back in the box it came in, and transported that way. But the problem with that is, is that have to assemble it each time to go from location to location, and rebalance it all over again, each time.

    Where as I need a contraption that can stay assembled during transported, and balanced beforehand. So I might get a different gimbal, but something that can be transported in one piece a lot easier than the Ronin. Unless of course you can transport the ronin all in one piece easily and there is a way to overcome that.


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    Walk Heel To Toe when filming with your gimbal. This will give a smooth move to your shot. Your practice should be holding the gimbal in a position that is comfortable to you and feels right. That way you won't want to figit as much when moving with it. Just a couple of things I picked up along the way. I hope this helps.

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    Okay thanks. What about when it comes to running though, and doing running shots? It's difficult to run heel to toe, so any suggestions there?


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    It is still the same principle. You want to bend your knees as they will act as the absorbing spring and practice putting moving quickly focusing on keeping your hips moving level. As fast as you can m ice this way will be depending on how well you practice it. It can be done.

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    Okay thanks a lot for the input. What about transporting the Ronin? If I place it in the back of a car for example, it rests in this very awkward position, and I am worried the weight, might put too much pressure on the part facing down. It just looks so fragile and sensitive to weight when laying it down, and the way it slouches, so what's a good way of transporting it, do you think? I don't want to hang it on a hook, cause I am afraid it might slide off while driving.


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    You will need some help. One person drive and one person hold the Ronin. I alot of times you will see film makers use trucks so the person holding the stabilizer can sit int he back of it. This is where you use your creativity to create. Overcome obstacles. Try looking up how other film makers accomplish this on youtube. There plenty of videos that will steer you in the right direction.

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    Okay thanks. It's very difficult to transport, which is why I think I may get another gimble. There are DIY boxes with straps to put them to hold it in place I noticed. But the Ronin is more money than other gimbals so I think I might get another one, or maybe the glidecam knock off that you mentioned.


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    Well, it looks better then some of my footage haha
    Keep on practicing ;-)

    You were running the whole time? Or also walking?
    My shoots with a normal rig are better... if it comes to running yours are better


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    I was running the entire time pretty much, since I want to practice for some running shots for a project. But the Ronin is very awkward to hold the way it is built. I tried framing an actor, close up of his face, while running, and you have to hold it up super high for my arms, because on the Ronin the arm bars higher than the camera. I prefer the rigs where you the arm bars are below the camera for framing.

    I think I would do better with a different kind of gimbal. I was just renting the Ronin, and might try something else.


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    You can see a professional use a Glide Cam with a heavy Red Cam here:
    Behind The Scenes


    The Finish Short:


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    Okay thanks, that looks good. Well I would probably get a separate DP/camera operator to shoot the movie though, so what kind of gimbal or steadicam would be good for most DPs to be familiar with to use? That way when I get one, I will can hopefully find one who is familiar with it, but which one has gotten the most familiarity, do you think?


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