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    Default How is my editing and color, and sound effects grading here?

    Sorry, I should have posted this in the Videos forum probably. I did a mock beverage commercial with a couple of other aspiring filmmakers. I co-directed it, and did the editing, color grading myself. I did almost all the sound effects accept for the crickets which I got online. What do you think? What can I improve?



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    Its better than I expected.


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    Okay thanks. The sound isn't that good, but I think a lot of the music might hide that in this case. Also when the guy comes out of the grave, there is no dirt on him, cause I didn't want to dump dirt all over someone's grave, but perhaps I should have arranged for something more.

    Is there anything I can improve upon or do differently for next time?


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    That was fun. A few critiques: the ISO you were shooting at was way too high for the camera. Either shoot on a camera like the A7Sii of which the ISO can go up really high, or try to add some artificial lighting. If you opt to do that, be sure that the lighting makes sense for the scene. Focus on adding lights that could be attributed to moonlight, lights from stores, etc. Also, it looked like you just through a tint effect on which maps all whites to blues. Some people may like this, but I prefer trying to preserve skin tones unless there's a reason in the scene that a blue practical light would be on the character. So, I thought it worked at the beginning with the blue light of the store, but then I got confused as to why he was still completely blue. But maybe that's just me.

    I also thought you should have moved the hand effect lower on the screen. Overall though, I agree with Mick that it was better than I thought it would be. I thought you edited it nicely. Keep making films.

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    Okay thanks. But the camera we were shooting on was the A7sii in fact, and we turned the ISO up high, to get that bright. I was also thinking the same thing, that the lighting did not match the source.

    I was going for the blue tint on purpose as a stylistic effect, and it was done intentionally. I can remove it, but after getting people's opinions, they liked the blue better. Basically while shooting there is a mixture of LED lights and street lights, surrounding the graveyard. The street lights are orange sodium, and the LEDs were daylight balanced. This caused the LED lighting to be more obvious so in order to make all the lighting blend together, I decided on a blue tint that would double as a stylistic choice, kind of like how a lot of silent films were color tinted.

    As for the camera, we shot on the A7Sii and still had high noise. So what was it that we did wrong, if you think that the camera should have been able to handle it? I can't remember the ISO number but it was high enough to get that bright with the LED lights we had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    Okay thanks. But the camera we were shooting on was the A7sii in fact, and we turned the ISO up high, to get that bright. I was also thinking the same thing, that the lighting did not match the source.

    I was going for the blue tint on purpose as a stylistic effect, and it was done intentionally. I can remove it, but after getting people's opinions, they liked the blue better. Basically while shooting there is a mixture of LED lights and street lights, surrounding the graveyard. The street lights are orange sodium, and the LEDs were daylight balanced. This caused the LED lighting to be more obvious so in order to make all the lighting blend together, I decided on a blue tint that would double as a stylistic choice, kind of like how a lot of silent films were color tinted.

    As for the camera, we shot on the A7Sii and still had high noise. So what was it that we did wrong, if you think that the camera should have been able to handle it? I can't remember the ISO number but it was high enough to get that bright with the LED lights we had.
    If you like the blue tint, leave it. That was just my personal opinion.

    That is strange. Were you shooting at a very high aperture or accidentally with ND filters perhaps? Did you under expose and then try to bring it up in the color grade? I have not seen ANY A7sii footage that noisy.

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    Okay thanks. Well in the video, the noise doesn't happen till we get to graveyard, right? The opening at the convenience store seems pretty noiseless by comparison, right?

    Then at the very end of the video, when the actors run into the streetlight, in the last three shots, the noise has cut down a lot. So the only place where the noise is really high is in the cemetery, and that's cause the cemetery is a lot more dark.

    I can't remember what the aperture was at. It wasn't open to the widest, cause I wanted both actors to be in focus, in the shots where you see both of them. So maybe the aperture was around f5.6 to fit them both into a deep enough DOF that the would both be in focus, but I cannot remember the exact aperture, and that's just a mere guess.

    Me and the other filmmaker who brought the A7s II set the settings together once we got to the cemetery. We set the aperture to a wide enough one where both actors will still be in focus likely, and then turned up the ISO from there. It got to the point where I could see the noise on the monitor so I didn't want to turn it up any higher than it was, fearing it would be too noisy.

    But if you look at the final freeze frame at the end, both actors are in focus, at different distances. So the aperture was high enough to get them both in at that distance apart. But now we didn't have ND filters on the lenses at all.

    What you see in the final product is the exact exposure we shot at. No exposure was turned up or brightened in post. The only thing I changed to the look was I darkened the blacks a bit, and added the blue tint and that's it.

    When we shot it, we used four LED lights in the cemetery. Not sure what kind of LEDs, cause one of the two other filmmakers brought them. They looked about as bright as a 500 watt halogen, maybe more, but perhaps four LEDs are just not bright enough to cancel out all the noise in a cemetery shoot, with the A7s II, compared to streetlights, in the opening and closing shots?

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