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    Hi there,

    Just having a bit of difficulty wrapping my head around this issue. So I am currently looking to buy a new microphone to use for film making however, most of the microphones I find that I might be interested in (I am on a tight budget) only record in Mono. I have worked with a Mono microphone before and while the audio quality was OK (nothing to write home about though), it was a complete pain to deal with in editing. Fairly simple to turn the mono recording into stereo by copying it over into the right channel so it plays through both the left and the right but this always adds a lot of noise and hissing into the right channel.
    My confusion starts when I watch example and test videos of other mics online, even though they record in Mono, they sound perfectly fine through both the left and the right channel with no extra hissing through either...

    Is there something I've been doing wrong? Or is there some other way of editing the audio so it plays through both the left and right channels without having to copy the left into the right?

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    I believe that all mics record in mono. Stereo would need two mics recording the same thing just like duplicating the mono recording. When listening to mono it should come out to be stereo in your headphones, at least that's how it is on my Tascam DR-40 and editing software.

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    Or is there some other way of editing the audio so it plays through both the left and right channels without having to copy the left into the right?
    I think you may need to describe a bit more in depth your setup and how you are recording/mixing audio. A mono signal can be panned anywhere in the stereo spectrum, there is no need to copy left into the right. If you want the mono signal to play through both the left and right channels pan it center.

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    I'm surprised you say that mono is a pain to deal with in editing, cause I actually find stereo to be pain to deal with in editing, cause if you want the sound to come through one speaker, more than the other, you have to delete one of the channels then. If you have more hissing in mono, compared to stereo it sounds like something is going wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    I'm surprised you say that mono is a pain to deal with in editing, cause I actually find stereo to be pain to deal with in editing, cause if you want the sound to come through one speaker, more than the other, you have to delete one of the channels then.................
    This has more to do with you not understanding your software, because you don't have to delete one channel.
    BTW, deleting one channel means the sound comes through one spreaker only. That is not the same as 'more than the other', since that can mean you want one side a bit louder than the other as well.

    Language matters when communicating and as long as you phrase things sloppy you will not get the result you want when you hire someone and you'll have more change that readers of your script get lost when you don't write what you mean.


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    Oh okay, I though we were talking about this audio problem, what's hiring people and readers of my script have to do with this?

    Also, I've hardly had to edit stereo tracks before, so yes, I'm not experienced in that, since I keep editing with mono so far.

    Or what am I doing wrong in my communications exactly? Do I not explain enough and need to elaborate a lot more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
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    Or what am I doing wrong in my communications exactly? Do I not explain enough and need to elaborate a lot more?
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    ..............., cause if you want the sound to come through one speaker, more than the other, you have to delete one of the channels then. ............................
    Read again what you write and you'll see it is not the explaination or need to elaborate, but you are just saying it wrong.

    One does not make the sound come MORE through one speaker than the other by deleting/muting one side. That is the way to make a sound go through one side ONLY. If it comes through one channel ONLY, it is indeed MORE than the other side. But MORE on one side is in most cases not ONLY on one side: it is not a 1 vs 0 scenario, but a 100% vs a >100% (which can be anything from 99,9999999999% to 0%).

    Like apples and fruit.
    All apples are fruits, but not all fruits are apples.
    The inability to see the difference causes a lot of confusion when you don't really write what you mean. Or lack the critical overview on your own writings. Just like the 'Question about blabla'-construction: it never occured to you that you could use a questionmark instead.

    So, on one side you want to take every advice very literal, while you don't communicate literally what you want to say.
    Often you do indeed not elaborate enough, leaving out vital information (again and again and again), but in the above case you say something misleading, because you don't choose your words properly. Someone might read it, try it and get confused why it doesn't work they way they want it to work.

    About readers and hiring people:
    you are often asking how you should write things so your readers understand it. Maybe the problem is indeed that you don't write what you mean, while you think you do, because you know what you want to say.
    (A lot of people make mistakes with language, syntax and grammar. Often people still understand it, but sometimes one says the opposite of what they want to say without noticing it. And that create Babylonian chaos.)
    Remember you hired a colorist who did not do what you wanted him to do, because he did what you told him to do?
    You use words the wrong way, so he interpreted it not the way you intended it.

    Or that you keep/kept mixing up color wheel and hue wheel?

    So, yeah, I notice a pattern here.


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    Oh okay thanks. I will try to word things better. I don't think readers had a problem with the wording the scripts particularly, but they said they had some problems with some of the character decisions. Maybe it was the actual wording though.

    Basically in Premiere Pro, they do not label the wheels by name, so I got mixed up on which wheel was which. But from now I will just say 'wheel', since the wheels are not actually labeled, if that helps.


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