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    Default I have a problem with 24 to 23.976 conversion in Premiere Pro.

    Basically in Premiere Pro, I created a sequence and edited a scene in it, but I accidentally set the sequence to 24fps, instead of 23.976.

    So when I go to put that sequence together with all my other sequences, on the same time, the 24 fps, does not match with the others, and have timing problems with that sequence.

    So I tried to create a new 23.976fps sequence, and then copy and paste all the footage out of the 24 fps sequence into the new 23.976 sequence.

    However, when I copy the footage that has been interpreted as 24fps, into the new 23.976 timeline, the footage is still at 24 fps, leading to black spots on some of the frames once in a while.

    Is there anything I can do to get premiere pro to interpret the footage differently on a new timeline? I tried googling it, but so far every tutorial is saying that premiere pro should re-interpret the footage once it hits the new timeline, but for some reasons it's not. Anyone know what to do about this?

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    I never had PPro re-interpret footage once it hit the timeline.
    Can you post a link to that source?

    All I ever saw was PPro suggesting to change the timeline setting to the first clip I wanted to place on the timeline.
    Footage interpretations can not vary per timeline. Those are for the whole project.
    Are you sure the footage is 24fps and the other scenes are not?

    Create a backup copy of your project first. (Because this might get messy with the timing of sound.)
    Select files, right click > modify > interpret footage.

    The blackspots are probably missing frames at the end of a clip after the fps was set smaller.

    One important question is: how did this this happen: did you shoot at different framerates?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter B View Post
    I never had PPro re-interpret footage once it hit the timeline.
    Can you post a link to that source?

    All I ever saw was PPro suggesting to change the timeline setting to the first clip I wanted to place on the timeline.
    Footage interpretations can not vary per timeline. Those are for the whole project.

    Are you sure the footage is 24fps and the other scenes are not?

    Create a backup copy of your project first. (Because this might get messy with the timing of sound.)
    Select files, right click > modify > interpret footage.

    The blackspots are probably missing frames at the end of a clip after the fps was set smaller.

    One important question is: how did this this happen: did you shoot at different framerates?
    100%. Make a new timeline, and copy/paste first the first clip of the sequence, then everything else. After the first clip you should get the suggestion to match sequence settings to footage settings.

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    Okay thanks. This worked. However, when I import new clips onto the timeline, the new clips are still imporating at 24. Either that or something else is wrong, cause I cannot get the new clips to line up with the old ones on the timeline, and if I try to put a new clip in the old clip, there is still a blank frame. What do I do in that case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    Okay thanks. This worked. However, when I import new clips onto the timeline, the new clips are still imporating at 24. Either that or something else is wrong, cause I cannot get the new clips to line up with the old ones on the timeline, and if I try to put a new clip in the old clip, there is still a blank frame. What do I do in that case?
    There should not be any blank frames if you are going down in framerate, from 24 to 23.976. This may be your computer. Have you tried fully rendering the sequence and checking if the blank frames are still there?

    Also, did you change frame rate while shooting? There is no reason it should randomly switch from 23.976 to 24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    Okay thanks. This worked. However, when I import new clips onto the timeline, the new clips are still imporating at 24. Either that or something else is wrong, cause I cannot get the new clips to line up with the old ones on the timeline, and if I try to put a new clip in the old clip, there is still a blank frame. What do I do in that case?
    You use the wrong words, which makes me believe you 1) don't know what you are doing and 2) didn't grasp half of what has been said.

    You IMPORT files into a project, but you INSERT or DRAG a file (in)to a timeline.
    The framerate of a file NEVER changes when you drag it into a timeline with a different framerate.
    You can only MODIFY the framerate in the Project-window, by selecting the clip(s) as described above. And when you do so, that change will be effective for every clip from the adjusted file. Regardless of the framerate of any timeline.

    Did you check what the framerates are of your files?
    Do you know where to find that info?

    Besides that: without showing what you are doing, we can only guess what you are doing wrong.
    And since your wording is technically incorrect, there is too much noise on the line to properly help you.


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    Okay then, thanks. I did check the framerate, and the framerate is 23.976 in the project window, but then when I drag it into the timeline, it seems to change since

    1), the clip refuses to touch the other clips in the timeline, resulting in blackspots

    2), the audio doesn't quite line up. When I put a marker on an video clip, it is on the frame, but the audio, is in between frames.

    So not sure what is happening to the clip, when the clip is at 23.976, and the sequence setting for the timelines is at 23.976.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpony View Post
    Okay then, thanks. I did check the framerate, and the framerate is 23.976 in the project window, but then when I drag it into the timeline, it seems to change since

    1), the clip refuses to touch the other clips in the timeline, resulting in blackspots

    2), the audio doesn't quite line up. When I put a marker on an video clip, it is on the frame, but the audio, is in between frames.

    So not sure what is happening to the clip, when the clip is at 23.976, and the sequence setting for the timelines is at 23.976.
    This is not the characteristic of PP. When clips do not lock together normally is because the lock is turned off. In the original sequence you should have been able to go to the sequence settings and change the frame rate to the 23.976. If not then this means you will need to create a new sequence and import from your original clips from project window as oppose to dragging from other sequence.

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    Oh okay, unfortunately I do not have time to start all over so I will have to deal with them not not being able to line up properly, and overlap a bit. When you say the lock is turned off, what do you mean? Do you mean the lock that locks the picture timeline?

    But thanks, I will know this for next time :).

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    http://creativeclouduser.com/wp-cont...ng-770x433.jpg

    Snap lock allows you to be able to arrange clips by snap locking them together. When you turn it off then you are more free to arrange them with having to be stricted to a certain interval of movement.

    Even if that did not work, which I know it will, explode (magnify) your timeline up to individual frame intervals so that the clips are expanded wide and you can see more easily the edges of each clip. You do that by taking the bottom horizontal timeline navigation bar ends and adjusting them by pulling them closer to together. This makes your timeline frames more accessible. You will be able to eliminate anything between clips because you can see each frame. You can manually pit clips together without problem.


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    Okay thanks. I can do the second option it's just very time consuming cause any time I move a clip on the timeline when cutting the movie down, it restarts with a black spot each time. So I have to do it each time I move a clip.

    As for snap lock, I clicked the snap lock button a few times with the clip selected and nothing happened. Am I doing something wrong?


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    Show a picture of your timeline please.
    Zoomed in far enough to see your 'black spots'


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